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  1. Andrew MaxwellJune 27, 2011 at 8:54 AM

    Great article. I look forward to seeing some competition between both products, which only makes the end user the winner. I for one am sticking with Google Apps!

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  2. MirkoJune 27, 2011 at 9:01 AM

    We need private templates for Google Apps Standard Edition, not only public as now!

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  3. @JoeTierneyJune 27, 2011 at 11:57 AM

    Love it!

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  4. 68BomberJune 27, 2011 at 11:59 AM

    Nice Job on this post.

    One point of contention... you need to have a line for offline editing in your productivity anywhere section of your comparison png. You don't yet have true universal access. I had a problem with Comcast and I don't tether my phone. I could no longer get access to any of the material I was working on. The Enterprise will be reluctant to adopt a technology that can't sync on and offline.

    I think that Apple with a combo of Local Apps, Time Capsule, Airport, and iCloud, is a good model. If Google Apps could behave like Evernote, you would have the killer solution.

    www.vesselhead.com

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  5. BillJune 27, 2011 at 12:03 PM

    This article is so full of holes it's pathetic! It's quite clear that the author doesn't have a clue what Office 365 is, how to use it, or why there are different plans. You'll note that there is no support for legacy programs in Google Apps. I highly suspect that last sentence is incorrect and should be something along the line that, "....38,000 business users....", not 38,000 businesses. Thanks for the insight, but I will stick with Microsoft.

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  6. wizardofozistJune 27, 2011 at 1:43 PM

    Fair article.. I agree with @68bomer tho.. Need offline access.. and @bill I think it is clear that you are a microsoft fan.. Nothing wrong with that!! Just that I think the author has made a fair point an while the comparison may be biased, it is not 'so full of holes'!

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  7. UnknownJune 27, 2011 at 2:15 PM

    A Google Apps show-stopper is inability to switch the Primary Domain, because Google uses it as the account ID. This is a show-stopper because companies change: names change, projects change, domains change. Being locked into the original domain is beyond bizarre, it is totally inept.

    Microsoft Office 365 allow any domain a company might own to be used, or later changed.

    Google allows change too: Create a new Apps account and start over! Nope, we'll just go with a company that understands that the customer's permanent account ID should not be tied to ANYTHING the customer might want to later change. Basic practice of computer systems for 40 years...except for Google.

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  8. My BlogJune 27, 2011 at 2:45 PM

    Looovvveee it. Microsoft continues to push their agenda. They are not a company you want to partner with for "any device, anywhere, anytime" kind of thinking that is tomorrow.

    Select Microsoft if you are happy with the same old 90s way of thinking.

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  9. GeorgeJune 27, 2011 at 7:46 PM

    I've used both and our company has done a long term review of both. Microsoft wins hands down for features, etc. Google is right in much of what they say, but tell our accounting team or the quants that they have to use Google Docs instead of Excel and we would have a rebellion on our hands.

    Also, one very very important fact that Google leaves out, there will be very nice integration between the desktop apps and the web apps. Right now I can use my desktop Excel, save it directly to the cloud, and then use my web access when I am on a computer that does not have the full blown Excel app.

    For some price matters. For others, features count and Google has a long way to go before they can compete in that area.

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  10. ManojJune 27, 2011 at 10:03 PM

    IT's pathetic.. whatever is given in the above article is not on facts... and I don't know from where the author has fetch the information... there is no comparison between Office 365 and GAPPS, as O365 is far ahead from GAPPS. Google people have to raise their standards of services to reach at par to Microsoft O365.

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  11. Patrik SJune 27, 2011 at 11:52 PM

    Bill, enlighten us, why are there different plans.

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  12. vijjuJune 27, 2011 at 11:56 PM

    Enterprise is willing to try out the cloud model which is the future, but it will not be willing to go for a solution: which
    1. does not repect legacy,
    2. does not provide offline access,
    3. does not provide offline productivity tools.
    Silly you missed out on that one ! biased article.

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  13. Dhaval FariaJune 28, 2011 at 12:09 AM

    Google.. first get Word document rendering correct then talk about others.

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  14. Agile ITJune 28, 2011 at 12:19 AM

    Office 365 is for enterprises just as much as small teams. The offline/online Office 365 vision works for more people the online only Google apps model.

    Microsoft also has seamless federation with online and cloud systems...as well as hosted SIP Unified Messaging with their email. Microsoft gives busines a choice, cloud or on premise. With Google, it's just cloud religion/marketing as demonstrated in this article.

    With 90% of Google's business search...you will do anything for more eyeballs. Can I buy ads on my competitors employees email accounts next year?

    John G.

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  15. Adam FowlerJune 28, 2011 at 12:36 AM

    I have a lot of respect for Google, but it's gone down a notch after reading this poorly conceived post.

    I know you're trying to be smart, but 365 reasons and then not giving that many?

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  16. Beaver6813June 28, 2011 at 2:58 AM

    @Bill(Gates?) It's quite clear that you don't have a clue about Google Apps or how to use it; the author is Google App's Product Manager, I'm sure he's quite versed in the competition. What have legacy programs got to do with Google Apps?! The whole idea of applications in the cloud is to move away for the need of desktop programs, Office 365 still suggests the use of a desktop program with their online suite in a desperate attempt to prevent their desktop sales going down the pan.

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  17. Thomas - G-Apps MastersJune 28, 2011 at 3:18 AM

    Is the author 100% certain that Live365 *requires* client apps to run? I've seen the demo, running on Mac OSX, and am not currently using Office 2011...

    I do get a chuckle that it uses Flash elements, but HTML5 basis for Google Apps seals the deal for us and our clients. Now just get offline HTML5 running and available and we can enjoy it more.

    This will be an interesting Q3/Q4 to 2011. Want to see how users migrate out of BPOS, as well as how Live365 infrastructure holds up vs Google Apps. Let the games begin!

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  18. scouser73June 28, 2011 at 3:42 AM

    You can't deny that Microsoft has had it's day, cloud based services are the in-thing and yet again Microsoft are sorely lacking in this department.

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  19. GKJune 28, 2011 at 5:09 AM

    How about the uptime for GApps? Don't just quote the GMail. GApps is not just Gmail. How can I decide?

    Can you provide a feature-by-feature comparison of GApps vs. Office365 when they launch? It will really help us, than just telling 125 features added last year.

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  20. g.t.June 28, 2011 at 5:15 AM

    What about the ugly user interface of google docs?

    I want a nice user interface and the ability to create good looking documents, did anyone at google thought of that?

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  21. OtterpondJune 28, 2011 at 5:39 AM

    It is unfortunate but true that we can't always count on being connected. Offline access is a requirement. I do agree that the use of an application platform that is built for collaboration is key in being successful for the enterprise.

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  22. SriramJune 28, 2011 at 5:40 AM

    Google is always the best!
    It works well on any linux box too, with open, fair standards. And perfect for business too!

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  23. GulabJune 28, 2011 at 5:57 AM

    Totally agree with Bill and most important thing is Support. You name any product of Microsoft you got 24/7 support, but you can't say the same about Google.
    If you open up a new business or running existing business, you got everything in Office 365 a business need.

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  24. jaysonJune 28, 2011 at 6:44 AM

    As a relatively happy google apps user going to have to say, most of this article is total FUD.

    Google, with App's have been doing little development/innovation wise since after initial release, to the point that i would say their applications (Document,spreadsheet so forth) are not suitable for any even semi serious user. In most cases we still revert to using our local installs of office for proper document generation.

    Only real strength google has is their mail application, not only is the web client good but it is also something many people will be familiar with from their personal use. The rest is "bla" at best

    If Google don't want to be wiped out in the online application cloud they need to pull out all the stops ASAP and not waste time on crap like this article.

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  25. DoomSwitchJune 28, 2011 at 7:05 AM

    That isn't exatly 365 ways to consider, so therefore I would like refund on my pun. Hovever, dont get me wrong I am sold on Apps; I am most likely a Googler for LYFE. 24/7 365 and 1/4.

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  26. AlexJune 28, 2011 at 7:09 AM

    So Where is the 365 reasons ? & I also agree with Bill, do some research & understand the product before making a blog post on it

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  27. Ian RayJune 28, 2011 at 8:41 AM

    Bill, which software company relies on legacy programs?

    As for legacy support, my setup pushes data from old Borland/Delphi databases and hideous proprietary DOS-based software to Google Spreadsheets constantly. 365 doesn't support pushing any kind of data, let alone that stored by older, expensive data acquisition equipment.

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  28. Mahomedalid Ivan Pacheco MorelosJune 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM

    Bill is so pathetic.

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  29. IlijaJune 28, 2011 at 9:17 AM

    @Bill, you said: "the author doesn't have a clue what Office 365 is"

    The author Shan Sinha is a former Microsoft SharePoint and SQL Server strategist... :-)

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  30. vignyanJune 28, 2011 at 11:17 AM

    funny how inaccurate this article is... But hey, its posted by google. They will not tell you that their's is better and ask you to go and buy their products!

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  31. DemoJune 28, 2011 at 11:21 AM

    Google Apps don't promote a convicted monopoly, one that participated in the Intel CPU tax, and one that worked to reduce consumer choice down to zero.

    That alone is reason enough for me to give Google my five bucks.

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  32. JPPbJune 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM

    One -1 to apps. You can't continue using legacy interfaces like docs main page evenly if you think the new version is a badgrade.
    In any other way: I <3 Apps

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  33. nanshareJune 28, 2011 at 11:41 AM

    Hello Bill you might be wrong Say 38,000 business users in your view as a Microsoft user. As for Google apps its for a team so its a business customers. They are right

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  34. g.t.June 28, 2011 at 12:30 PM

    1- You cannot double click on a Google document on your desktop and open it in Google Docs.
    2- You can’t store the Google document on your desktop and edit it offline with Google Docs.
    3- You cannot create any good looking document using Google Docs.
    4- Google docs is all about algorithms and what is the best way for many people to edit a document at the same time, that is nice, but honestly, how many people at Google edit documents at the same time? And what about all other features that the normal user wants?
    5- Google docs is all about a simple almost blank web page with a menu in it, Microsoft Office has a nice user interface, a helpful one, Google Docs UI is frozen back in 1995!
    6- Microsoft Word 95 (and maybe Word 6.0) has more document editing capabilities than Google Docs 2011 (except the multiple user editing), it has the things a normal user wants!
    7- Microsoft is going to integrate html5 with the Windows 8 desktop, end to end integration, Google does not care about the local user desktop, in other words there is no real chance to get a feature like double click on a file on the desktop and open it in docs, Google does not believe in the desktop at all, look at Google Chrome OS!
    8- Google must keep a copy of your data, which is a modern way of thinking, if you want to keep a copy on a third server, or your server, it is considered an outdated way of thinking!

    Some people will go Google Docs, including some of my documents, but I still use Microsoft Office to write and spell-check and grammar check this post, imagine how would have looked like if I purely wrote it in Google Docs.

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  35. gfellowJune 28, 2011 at 12:32 PM

    User confidence: Although Google may have its problems, when it comes down to trust, I find that Google's "Do no harm" is by and large adhered to, whereas with Microsoft I am almost assured to be on the receiving end of a profit-margin stick.

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  36. MarkJune 28, 2011 at 12:39 PM

    "...the author doesn't have a clue... why there are different plans." Let me take a stab at it; to maximize Microsoft's revenue?

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  37. RobJune 28, 2011 at 2:47 PM

    I use Google docs etc (but not Apps - yet) and wanted to take a look at Office 365 - but guess what? I need silverlight to "see how it works" which I don't have. So I switch from Chrome into
    IE9 thinking this may be quicker (wrong) only to be told Silverlight may not work for 64 bit blah blah.

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  38. Fifth BusinessJune 28, 2011 at 2:48 PM

    Think one reason could be the web integration with gdocs and google api's. Can an office spreadsheet measure the distance from your house to the place suggested by the ip of the entering client? With a bit of javascript you can make gdocs tapdance...

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  39. BOBJune 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM

    Problem is profiles arent available for Google apps users and you cant create shared contact list. Any idea when this will get fixed?

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  40. GarryBJune 28, 2011 at 6:39 PM

    Lets wait for time and the market to decide. Remember VHS versus Beta cassettes?

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  41. Her$hyJune 28, 2011 at 9:14 PM

    Love the article!! Its really informative

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  42. BrendanJune 28, 2011 at 10:52 PM

    Bill,

    Google Apps, has the best support for both Legacy formats, ODF and can read PDFs and can save to back to these formats. Which is something that 365 can't do.

    Also it's actually it is 38,000 businesses, because one this is a Google blog, and which means that the guy works for google, and because they have over 3 million businesses signed up.

    http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/index.html

    Google Apps allows you to manage documents from anywhere, anytime, any device. Something that 365 doesn't do.

    Our university campus uses gmail as it's email systems, and it has done for the last 2 years.

    I my self have transfered 7 customers to gmail and google docs.

    I however haven't heard anyone use Office 365, which is why I think you are a Microsoft employee.

    I am not saying that Google is perfect, because it's very hard to do things like page borders or write a resume in as it doesn't have support for headers and footers, but given that 365 doesn't support such things it's ok.

    So I as well my 7 clients will stick with Google.

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  43. IsaacJune 28, 2011 at 11:34 PM

    I do consider to immigrate to Office 365, it's looks more polish, and very nice looking. I'm using google apps since three years, and still working with my desktop office suit although I really tried hard to work only on the cloud. The offline ability is must, the air-connectivity is not yet as the industry talk about it. I also use salesforce, and must admit that I miss offline which is not available for WM7, IE9 at all, but these two air-services are great examples that in order to have good suit and integration between them, it must use MS Outlook. without outlook both services are useless!. which means that there are no differences which online service I will use, the link will be Outlook, and daily work will be done with office suit.

    Also, I never got used to Tags, I still prefer the filing system like Outlook, Yahoo, etc'. The biggest problems starts when I need to search for an attachment, which takes long time with tag system.

    Last, we also like the product to visually look nice. When I start the application, I like my eyes to relax, and it should not be look so technical. I spent daily 12 hours, on my PC, and like to feel relax not stressful, and seems to me that MS did better job with Office365 in this aspect.

    Thanks for reading my post.
    Isaac

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  44. Mr. XyzJune 28, 2011 at 11:43 PM

    I would agree with Bill.
    Also you are comparing a product that has been in existence for sometime (4+ years ~Feb 2007 I guess) vs one that was launched yesterday.
    After an year this would be a very fair comparison, as ecosystem would have evolved for MS Office 365 as well.

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  45. OSRDGJune 29, 2011 at 1:59 AM

    As consultants, we are recommending Google Apps strongly to our clients. The comparison chart between 365 and Google Apps is timely and quite reasonable. Many of our customers are running Google Apps Standard Edition and some of them are planning for the business edition.

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  46. Bernaldo BarrenaJune 29, 2011 at 2:23 AM

    Here's a reason not to:

    Google Profiles aren't available yet.

    And Because of that, Google+1 will not be available yet.

    And because of that... Please, be quick.

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  47. FraJune 29, 2011 at 2:44 AM

    I totally agree with Bill, this post it's a bit pathetic. Microsoft products are not perfect at all, but these facts are quite ridiculous...

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  48. Preem PalverJune 29, 2011 at 5:03 AM

    Microsoft sells the access. Google will close your account without explanation (only an email) when Google want.

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  49. The-GeneralJune 29, 2011 at 8:16 AM

    Not to put Google down, but Office 365 IS about the web and does work on any browser and therefore many platforms, just as Google Apps does. Shan, did you miss this somehow? Several statements in here seem like you haven't really used Office 365 in order to provide a solid comparison and defense (2nd example: not built for sharing?).

    I look forward to comparing the two products, and I suspect that the more successful product will be the one with the best user interface and experience.

    Keep pushing things forward, Google!

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  50. Felke & FriendsJune 29, 2011 at 11:11 AM

    As a google app authorized reseller i have my bet with google, however besides large corporations going the virtualization line with Citrix, the question remains will the rest trust Msft more to store their sensitive data? I like to see some competition, who participated in the msft 365 beta will know what a slow dog they bring to the race track, no good. Keep on doin your magic Google!

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  51. FuzzycatJune 29, 2011 at 11:35 AM

    1 Reason not to:

    Compatibility. I'm not talking about compatibility outside Google, I'm talking about compatibility with Google's own offerings. Take for example Google+ it can't be used with GApps accounts. It's a fundamental flaw with Google's strategy. Gapps users get left out.

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  52. jesJune 30, 2011 at 10:56 AM

    I like Google and don't think this article is OK. It's not Google culture to say bad things of competitors, or at least so I thought.

    >"You can't just take legacy, desktop software, move some of it to a data center and call it "cloud.""

    Ridiculous!

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  53. ChinaInsightJuly 1, 2011 at 4:05 AM

    From my understanding, Office 365 is just microsoft exchange without the need to purchase a server and microsoft exchange software. After I quite my job and started my own business I looked quite extensively into getting exchange for just email and calendar, but the costs were too high via thrid party hosting services. I now use gmail and gcalander and sync my office stuff with sugarsync. I suspect that I will keep sugar sync, but I will most definitely switch over to office 365.

    Btw, I have no idea what sharepoint is, since my pervious company didn't use sharepoint.

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  54. extremo99July 1, 2011 at 10:11 AM

    I only wish google apps had a conectivity with other cloud services (like dropbox) among with more features in the suite

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  55. extremo99July 1, 2011 at 10:13 AM

    I wish that google apps would had integration with other services such as Dropbox and it would had more features

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  56. Johan DahlbergJuly 4, 2011 at 3:58 PM

    It would be really nice if you added support for Profiles and Buzz. If you at least could say how the progress is going or/and when you think it would be added.

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  57. Henry OngJuly 7, 2011 at 2:30 PM

    MSFT's rebuttal - http://blogs.technet.com/b/whymicrosoft/archive/2011/06/21/why-are-small-businesses-choosing-office-365-over-google-apps_3f00_.aspx

    I think Office 365 wins this one. :)

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  58. Chris EplerJuly 14, 2011 at 8:09 AM

    Well, if you added profile support to Google Apps then you could possibly add some reasons...but until then, thanks for telling my about Office 365, will have to check it out.

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  59. Nabin GrgJuly 24, 2011 at 10:52 AM

    I luv Google docs. I wud like to see more features in word processor that can help me create attratively formatted word documents in less time. Currently the formatting options available are very basic.

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